I say that as if Spider-Man 2 wasn’t the best of that particular trilogy and Venom 2 may be r-rated, so by all accounts this second film may be far better than we may have anticipated.
It’s directed by Andy Serkis, who has worked under some wonderful directors and himself made the Netflix original Jungle Book film that was far better than the Disney live-action one, and will star Woody Harrelson, who is a fantastic actor when he’s not made to where a horrible wig and given dreadful lines like “there’s gonna be carnage“.
Get it?! It’s because he’s going to play the character Carnage!!!! It’s clever. The writers probably patted themselves on the back after that doozy. Christ.
Anyway, one of the main criticisms of the first Venom film was that it didn’t know what it was. Sometimes it was like a comedy buddy cop film, sometimes a detective noire film, sometimes a horror, sometimes a ham-fisted romance and sometimes an out and out action romp.
People were led to believe that they’d be getting a gritty and gruesome Venom film – a faithful adaptation of the comic book character – but instead they got one where the camera panned away whenever our protagonist ate someone and the action pieces resembled a video game fight controlled by someone who hasn’t learned the controls yet.
This was initially down to production companies’ fears that R-rated films don’t make as much money as those rated otherwise, since they’re alienating a huge part of their audience, but Joker has gone some way to disprove that.
Venom producer Matt Tolmach spoke about his new desires to CinemaBlend, saying:
“I mean, I think you always have to think about [it], now that that works. Having said that, our movie worked really well.
“Our franchise exists as it is, and I don’t think anybody is looking to just say, ‘Hey, they [did it]!’ We have a place in the world. So it isn’t like suddenly everybody’s considering what to do with the rating.
“I think what Joker does is it tells you that you can succeed. For a very long time, that was the narrative. And Deadpool sort of wrestled that to the turf, and then Logan, but for a long time, that was considered totally forbidden.
“So you know, I think it’s the greatest thing in the world that R-rated movies are being embraced by massive audiences. And it just means that there are more opportunities for that kind of storytelling.”
Well apparently – although both characters are currently in films by different studios – that’s not too much of a pipe dream, as old Venom director Ruben Fleischer revealed to Fandom that Sony are pretty insistent that a crossover with Spidey and the symbiote needs to happen.
Although the sequel film has now been handed to Andy Serkis, he explained:
“That’s where it’s all going to lead, and that’s the exciting thing, because we changed the origin of Venom… in the comics, he evolved from Spider-Man but because of the Marvel-Sony thing we weren’t able to that.
“And so the thing I think it’s building towards, and will be exciting to see, is when they actually do confront each other.”
I wrote about how that could happen here.
We’ll keep you updated.
Images via Sony, Disney
Alfie Powell joined as an apprentice and was probably hired because he was likely the only person who applied. He's been blagging his way through writing articles for four years now and he's definitely showing signs of slowing down. When not writing for The Hook, Alfie finds time to indulge in his favourite hobbies, such as drinking and sitting down.Follow