The director of Venom has confirmed that eventually, Venom and Spider-Man will crossover in a film.

Watching a Venom story without Spider-Man in it seems pretty dirty; like you’re cheating on the friendly neighbourhood superhero, but for some reason that’s what we were put through last year.

Having Tom Hardy roaming about, doing one of his weird accents and accidentally becoming a man-eating vigilante just didn’t do it for me, especially when we were to believe that Spider-Man very much didn’t exist on the other side of the country where there was a supposed “incident”.

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With that in mind and with essentially everyone going “christ you must be joking” when it was revealed that Woody Harrelson in a wig would be the bad guy for the second film, the big question was “can we please have Venom in the MCU so he can face off against Spider-Man instead?

Well apparently – although both characters are currently in films by different studios – that’s not too much of a pipe dream, as old Venom director Ruben Fleischer revealed to Fandom that Sony are pretty insistent that a crossover with Spidey and the symbiote needs to happen.

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Although the sequel film has now been handed to Andy Serkis, he explained:

That’s where it’s all going to lead, and that’s the exciting thing, because we changed the origin of Venom… in the comics, he evolved from Spider-Man but because of the Marvel-Sony thing we weren’t able to that.

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And so the thing I think it’s building towards, and will be exciting to see, is when they actually do confront each other.

Hmmmm…

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For now, due to a new deal between Sony and Disney, Tom Holland‘s Spider-Man is set to have at least one more solo MCU film and one more “team-up” appearance, but it’s still entirely possible that Sony will try to confuse everything and have him concurrently feature in non-MCU films with the likes of Venom, Black Cat, Kraven the Hunter, Morbius the Living Vampire, Silver Sable and more.

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It’s also possible that Tom Hardy’s Venom could join the MCU…

The things is, Spider-Man and Venom and Peter Parker and Eddie Brock hate each other. They’re supposed to be the same age and they clash in both aspects of their lives. Meanwhile, Tom Hardy’s Eddie Brock is more or less twice the age of Tom Holland’s Peter Parker and they live on the other side of the country. Not ideal. I do have an idea though…

Tom Hardy’s Brock is made to move to New York for cancer treatment – something he has in the comics. When there, he does his thing of eating bad guys, before he’s stopped by Spider-Man and the two fight. Spider-Man sort-of wins and the Venom symbiote is instantly seduced by his power and non-cancer-ridden body.

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Brock hears Venom think this as the symbiote detaches from his and follows Peter. Distraught, Brock goes back to hospital for treatment and falls into depression. Meanwhile, black suit Spider-Man is a dick. He’s still fighting crime but he’s mean to everyone and a lot more brutal.

Eventually, against the odds, Eddie Brock recovers, and immediately goes to the gym and takes fighting classes so he can beat Spider-Man. One day he tracks him down as Peter’s fighting criminals. Just as Spider-Man’s about to kill a criminal, he realises what he’s doing and stops. Terrified of who he’s become, he rips his suit off, with the symbiote sensing Brock and returning to him.

Eddie sees Peter’s face, Peter runs off and they later fight properly. Now both Brock and Venom know who Spider-Man is and they both hate him.

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I doubt that will happen though.

When is Venom 2 out?

As I mentioned earlier, the second Venom film is due to be released this time next year, in October 2020, directed by Andy Serkis so I fully expect that to be better than the first instalment.

Serkis has worked under some pretty great directors, such as Peter Jackson and Matt Reeves, and he directed Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle which wasn’t only good, but far better than the Disney live-action version.

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The first thing he needs to do with Venom is burn that fucking wig that they gave to Woody Harrelson and it’s already a far better film than its predecessor.

Meanwhile, Deadline reports that Venom 2 has added a second villain to its roster, and that’s yet another symbiote baddie in the form of Shriek, one of the many 90s knockoff Venoms, but this one’s a lady and likes to team up with the psychopathic murderer Carnage.

How fun.

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